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	<title>Comments on: Democrats Fight To Keep America&#8217;s Borders Unprotected</title>
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		<title>By: malagent</title>
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		<dc:creator>malagent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

Helping the economy is debatable. A legal immigrant that works does contribute to the economy just as any other citizen or permanent resident would. An illegal immigrant, however, does not pay pay taxes while they use up social services and resources paid for by the taxes of legal residents.

The issue is more than a fence - As a nation we need to enforce the rules and laws we already have. We need to punish businesses that hire illegal immigrants. But we also need to have a border and protect it.

I have no issue with legal immigrants, I also have no issue with Mexicans. I do have an issue with illegal immigrants. Considering we share a large border with Mexico a large majority of the immigrants (legal and illegal) come from Mexico.

Re: "would you want to work from six am to 8 pm in construction, or your would your child want that job"

Rather interesting that you should bring that up. First, what's wrong with construction work? I've done it - I've built houses and I've built roads. At one point I lost a rather good paying job ($18/hour at the time) doing road construction when the company brought in a bunch of illegals who could not speak English. To the best of my knowledge they were paid about $4/hour with no provisions for overtime or other benefits.

From your question I gather that you 1) Think that Americans are somehow better as human beings than immigrants and 2) Construction work is too good for Americans and somehow "bad" and 3) as such we should not do or even want to do that kind of work just let the inferior Mexicans do it.

Whatever one's job may be there is no shame in doing it to support oneself and ones family. There is a wide gamut of skills and qualifications among the legal immigrants and citizens of the US - ranging from unskilled suitable for general labor to highly technical skilled workers. To imply that no American is willing or capable of doing unskilled and or hard labor is ignorant. Are we as Americans simply born with College degrees and therefore unsuitable to get are hands dirty to support are family?

Re: "If you lost your job will you move (immigrate) to another place to find stability"

If I ever decided (by necessity or otherwise) to move to another country I would do so within their rules. and that is all I ask of those that choose to come to the US.

Re: "The only reason that the people emigrated is to have a better life for them and their family"

The same can be said as motivation for robbing a bank or murdering a family member for insurance money - Of course that does not justify the actions. The business owners who hire illegals just "want a better life" as well I'm sure.

Re: "Their are people just like you and me, and deserve the respect that you are given"

Quite correct. They are people - no different than you or I. Which is precisely why you and others should not imply that they are inferior and only suited for manual labor that Americans "just wont do". And being a person myself along with the other 300 million or so Americans, I deserve for people in my country to follow the rule of law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>Helping the economy is debatable. A legal immigrant that works does contribute to the economy just as any other citizen or permanent resident would. An illegal immigrant, however, does not pay pay taxes while they use up social services and resources paid for by the taxes of legal residents.</p>
<p>The issue is more than a fence - As a nation we need to enforce the rules and laws we already have. We need to punish businesses that hire illegal immigrants. But we also need to have a border and protect it.</p>
<p>I have no issue with legal immigrants, I also have no issue with Mexicans. I do have an issue with illegal immigrants. Considering we share a large border with Mexico a large majority of the immigrants (legal and illegal) come from Mexico.</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;would you want to work from six am to 8 pm in construction, or your would your child want that job&#8221;</p>
<p>Rather interesting that you should bring that up. First, what&#8217;s wrong with construction work? I&#8217;ve done it - I&#8217;ve built houses and I&#8217;ve built roads. At one point I lost a rather good paying job ($18/hour at the time) doing road construction when the company brought in a bunch of illegals who could not speak English. To the best of my knowledge they were paid about $4/hour with no provisions for overtime or other benefits.</p>
<p>From your question I gather that you 1) Think that Americans are somehow better as human beings than immigrants and 2) Construction work is too good for Americans and somehow &#8220;bad&#8221; and 3) as such we should not do or even want to do that kind of work just let the inferior Mexicans do it.</p>
<p>Whatever one&#8217;s job may be there is no shame in doing it to support oneself and ones family. There is a wide gamut of skills and qualifications among the legal immigrants and citizens of the US - ranging from unskilled suitable for general labor to highly technical skilled workers. To imply that no American is willing or capable of doing unskilled and or hard labor is ignorant. Are we as Americans simply born with College degrees and therefore unsuitable to get are hands dirty to support are family?</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;If you lost your job will you move (immigrate) to another place to find stability&#8221;</p>
<p>If I ever decided (by necessity or otherwise) to move to another country I would do so within their rules. and that is all I ask of those that choose to come to the US.</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;The only reason that the people emigrated is to have a better life for them and their family&#8221;</p>
<p>The same can be said as motivation for robbing a bank or murdering a family member for insurance money - Of course that does not justify the actions. The business owners who hire illegals just &#8220;want a better life&#8221; as well I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;Their are people just like you and me, and deserve the respect that you are given&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite correct. They are people - no different than you or I. Which is precisely why you and others should not imply that they are inferior and only suited for manual labor that Americans &#8220;just wont do&#8221;. And being a person myself along with the other 300 million or so Americans, I deserve for people in my country to follow the rule of law.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.malagent.com/2008/693/democrats-fight-to-keep-us-borders-unprotected/#comment-3388</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Immigration is an important part of this country. Yes there is a lot of people that cross the border with bad intentions (contraband, criminals) but that only makes up a very small part of all the immigrants that cross. I live about 10 blocks from Mexico. Most of the people that cross come here to work and sent money to their financially deprived life. They also help the economy. If they live in the U.S. they have to buy everything from the same store that you purchase your groceries. They also pay the sales taxes that you pay. If they become residents they have to pay taxes but don't get the luxury of voting in elections. If employers hire immigrants they don't provide them with health insurance and pay them less than a citizen. That means more money for the business. And would you want to work from six am to 8 pm in construction, or your would your child want that job. By international law wherever your child is born he or she will become a citizen of the sovereignty. Some of them do become criminals but most of them follow their parents example and become a hard working person. The only reason that the people emigrated is to have a better life for them and their family. If you lost your job will you move (immigrate) to another place to find stability for you and your loved one. Their are people just like you and me, and deserve the respect that you are given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Immigration is an important part of this country. Yes there is a lot of people that cross the border with bad intentions (contraband, criminals) but that only makes up a very small part of all the immigrants that cross. I live about 10 blocks from Mexico. Most of the people that cross come here to work and sent money to their financially deprived life. They also help the economy. If they live in the U.S. they have to buy everything from the same store that you purchase your groceries. They also pay the sales taxes that you pay. If they become residents they have to pay taxes but don&#8217;t get the luxury of voting in elections. If employers hire immigrants they don&#8217;t provide them with health insurance and pay them less than a citizen. That means more money for the business. And would you want to work from six am to 8 pm in construction, or your would your child want that job. By international law wherever your child is born he or she will become a citizen of the sovereignty. Some of them do become criminals but most of them follow their parents example and become a hard working person. The only reason that the people emigrated is to have a better life for them and their family. If you lost your job will you move (immigrate) to another place to find stability for you and your loved one. Their are people just like you and me, and deserve the respect that you are given.</p>
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		<title>By: ysonyou</title>
		<link>http://www.malagent.com/2008/693/democrats-fight-to-keep-us-borders-unprotected/#comment-3286</link>
		<dc:creator>ysonyou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> [From YouTube]&lt;br/&gt; Democrats need the Third World. Without the continued influx of 'handout, oppressed, alienated' trophy constituents, the Dems would lose their chance for continued survival. Sympathy props keep them in power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From YouTube]<br /> Democrats need the Third World. Without the continued influx of &#8216;handout, oppressed, alienated&#8217; trophy constituents, the Dems would lose their chance for continued survival. Sympathy props keep them in power.</p>
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		<title>By: tencz57</title>
		<link>http://www.malagent.com/2008/693/democrats-fight-to-keep-us-borders-unprotected/#comment-3190</link>
		<dc:creator>tencz57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> [From YouTube]&lt;br/&gt; WTG LOU . I watched that show . He was like a deer in the headlites . Thompson is a sellout and a Fool who thinks he's so slick . He's a screwed up dude</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From YouTube]<br /> WTG LOU . I watched that show . He was like a deer in the headlites . Thompson is a sellout and a Fool who thinks he&#8217;s so slick . He&#8217;s a screwed up dude</p>
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		<title>By: GoldenGateMinutemen</title>
		<link>http://www.malagent.com/2008/693/democrats-fight-to-keep-us-borders-unprotected/#comment-3102</link>
		<dc:creator>GoldenGateMinutemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> [From YouTube]&lt;br/&gt; Great post, SO TRUE! They (the Dems) are playing politcis with our safety &#038; future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From YouTube]<br /> Great post, SO TRUE! They (the Dems) are playing politcis with our safety &#038; future!</p>
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		<title>By: Darkknight7853</title>
		<link>http://www.malagent.com/2008/693/democrats-fight-to-keep-us-borders-unprotected/#comment-3101</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkknight7853</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> [From YouTube]&lt;br/&gt; Google Plan of San Diego. When the miexicans think they have enough numbers, they plane to rise up and kill all the white people in the south west.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From YouTube]<br /> Google Plan of San Diego. When the miexicans think they have enough numbers, they plane to rise up and kill all the white people in the south west.</p>
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		<title>By: girzwald3</title>
		<link>http://www.malagent.com/2008/693/democrats-fight-to-keep-us-borders-unprotected/#comment-3098</link>
		<dc:creator>girzwald3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> [From YouTube]&lt;br/&gt; Uhhh giving amnesty isn't solving or dealing with people coming here illegally you moron.  Thats forgiving them for breaking the law</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From YouTube]<br /> Uhhh giving amnesty isn&#8217;t solving or dealing with people coming here illegally you moron.  Thats forgiving them for breaking the law</p>
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		<title>By: theaznfishy</title>
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		<dc:creator>theaznfishy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> [From YouTube]&lt;br/&gt; Lasers on the border.  Common guys, laser fences, think about it.  They'll be so stupid enough to cross it they'll get sliced and diced and there wont be anyway around it.  It'll be great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From YouTube]<br /> Lasers on the border.  Common guys, laser fences, think about it.  They&#8217;ll be so stupid enough to cross it they&#8217;ll get sliced and diced and there wont be anyway around it.  It&#8217;ll be great!</p>
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		<title>By: girzwald3</title>
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		<dc:creator>girzwald3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> [From YouTube]&lt;br/&gt; More self deportation measures.  Crippling fines for people who hire illegal works.  Denial of medical care and food stamps to anyone who isn't a citizen of the untied states.  Denial of federal funding of any city or state that declares themselves or acts like a sanctuary city.  Jail time for politicians or authority figures who refuse to enforce the laws.  No more anchor babies.  At least 1 parent of the child must be a citizen for the child to get citizenship automatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From YouTube]<br /> More self deportation measures.  Crippling fines for people who hire illegal works.  Denial of medical care and food stamps to anyone who isn&#8217;t a citizen of the untied states.  Denial of federal funding of any city or state that declares themselves or acts like a sanctuary city.  Jail time for politicians or authority figures who refuse to enforce the laws.  No more anchor babies.  At least 1 parent of the child must be a citizen for the child to get citizenship automatically.</p>
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		<title>By: NoMoreInvasion</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoMoreInvasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> [From YouTube]&lt;br/&gt; You are correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From YouTube]<br /> You are correct.</p>
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